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Poster: Gregorovivs Date: Jul 12, 2011 8:16am
Forum: forums Subject: Re: Bookmarks overwritten!

Dear Mooffie:

I was unable to answer before, please forgive this delay.

Your project/proposal seems very useful and enhanced respect to the basic 'bookmarks' service inside Internet Archive.

But, as i say before, i must to deal with around 2,000 items already bookmarked, and the only idea of have to add each one to the utility you are proposing, scares me.

Is there any option or tool which allow to import from a Bookmarks list of IA directly to your plug-in?

Thanks for any answer, and mainly for your interest in this little issue.

Francisco.

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Poster: Mooffie Date: Jul 13, 2011 1:45am
Forum: forums Subject: Re: Mass-importing bookmarks

"Is there any option or tool which allow to import from a Bookmarks list of IA directly to your plug-in?"

Yes, you can easily import your 2275 items using this tool:

http://www.typo.co.il/~mooffie/tiger/importer/

(It's linked from Tiger's homepage.)

It took me less than a minute to import your bookmarks. Here's a proof:

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9974/import.jpg

(BTW, the Importing tool makes it possible, via filtering and/or the "Comment:" field, to organize your items under several tags. In other words, you don't have to limit yourself to a single "reviewed" tag only.)

"Thanks for any answer, and mainly for your interest in this little issue."

This isn't a "little issue". This is a giant issue. The inadequate bookmarking system here greatly hinders the use of this site. For me Tiger solves the problem.

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Poster: Mooffie Date: Jul 13, 2011 2:09am
Forum: forums Subject: Re: Mass-importing bookmarks

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9974/import.jpg

A little comment about this screenshot:

The "Year" column is filled-in for two items (1920, 1931). That's only because I happened to visit these two items; The Import tool doesn't import this Year field (it can't, because this data doesn't appear on the bookmarks page).

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Poster: Gregorovivs Date: Jul 15, 2011 7:32am
Forum: forums Subject: Re: Mass-importing bookmarks

Again, thanks a lot for your answer, Pal!

I know -and i suffer too- the system of Bookmars here and in other sites -as GoogleBooks, BNF/Gallica- is a 'giant issue', as you say.

But i wrote 'little issue' thinking in the Bookmarks service as a 'part' of a largest process, where the 'labels' created/provided by the indexation' server is involved too.

If we are being affected by the Bookmarks service, this is because the label system here, and in a lot of other sites, -i. e. you mentioned the trouble with the 'year' field in the final list of items indexed- is being inadequate to deal with the contents indexed here and there.

I was writting about this theme sometimes, [http://plgo.org/?p=20, http://plgo.org/?p=121, http://adastra.plgo.org/?p=147] and my point of view about this is, sadly, that the big competitors in the indexation/digitazion run are not thinking in the final users as owners of a particular or individual library, but as 'occasional visitors' and 'downloaders' of some items.

At this respect, tools as the bookmark manager you are promoting here are valuable tools, but our reality is we will forced to face some other issues in the close future, because the basis of all these matters is not in the final usage of all those resources, but in the inadequate system of indexation.

Again, salus, Pal, and thanks for your comments.

Francisco.